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Pandora on slim battery and even with moded charger

 
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septem



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Pandora on slim battery and even with moded charger Reply with quote

Hi there!
Got a question for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76ZnLHfg5co
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VThk8GsWtw8
In the first video (it's polish, but I think it's pretty clear what he's doing) guy shows us Pandora working on a slim battery. In the second he shows Pandora running with modified charger. It seems very doubtful to me... What do you think, is it real or is it just a hoax?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Pandora on slim battery and even with moded charger Reply with quote

septem wrote:
Hi there!
Got a question for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76ZnLHfg5co
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VThk8GsWtw8
In the first video (it's polish, but I think it's pretty clear what he's doing) guy shows us Pandora working on a slim battery. In the second he shows Pandora running with modified charger. It seems very doubtful to me... What do you think, is it real or is it just a hoax?


You CAN make a Pandora battery from a slim battery. You have to lift the data line from the serial eeprom to do so. So it's a HARDWARE modification, not software like with the phat battery. This same hardware modification can be done on a number of batteries, not just the slim.

There's directions on how what pin to lift on the battery circuit over at MaxConsole if you're interested.
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Art



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a pity that magnetic reed switches are normally open,
or you could have a normal sealed battery that has Pandora mode activated
by placing a magnet near the battery cover.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Art wrote:
It's a pity that magnetic reed switches are normally open,
or you could have a normal sealed battery that has Pandora mode activated
by placing a magnet near the battery cover.


Good idea, I had a quick look into reed contacts and it seems there are also normally closed reed contacts (instead of the common normally open ones = form A). Those nice type is called "form B". There even better ones that can switch states (form E).

http://www.reed-sensor.com/
http://www.reed-sensor.com/Notes/Glossary.htm#Form_B
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Art



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they small enough?
I've destroyed a PSP battery in the early days,
but don't remember how much room is left in it.. probably didn't care at the time.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Pandora on slim battery and even with moded charger Reply with quote

J.F. wrote:
septem wrote:
Hi there!
Got a question for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76ZnLHfg5co
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VThk8GsWtw8
In the first video (it's polish, but I think it's pretty clear what he's doing) guy shows us Pandora working on a slim battery. In the second he shows Pandora running with modified charger. It seems very doubtful to me... What do you think, is it real or is it just a hoax?


You CAN make a Pandora battery from a slim battery. You have to lift the data line from the serial eeprom to do so. So it's a HARDWARE modification, not software like with the phat battery. This same hardware modification can be done on a number of batteries, not just the slim.

There's directions on how what pin to lift on the battery circuit over at MaxConsole if you're interested.


Yeah, but he says that it's only software mod, he never disassembled battery...
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Art



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, but he says that it's only software mod, he never disassembled battery...

Perhaps he could have proven that in the time it took to prove he's a wanker
with a poster and Tshirt about himself so the video would be the same length,
and show us something we didn't already know.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:18 am    Post subject: Re: Pandora on slim battery and even with moded charger Reply with quote

septem wrote:
J.F. wrote:
septem wrote:
Hi there!
Got a question for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76ZnLHfg5co
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VThk8GsWtw8
In the first video (it's polish, but I think it's pretty clear what he's doing) guy shows us Pandora working on a slim battery. In the second he shows Pandora running with modified charger. It seems very doubtful to me... What do you think, is it real or is it just a hoax?


You CAN make a Pandora battery from a slim battery. You have to lift the data line from the serial eeprom to do so. So it's a HARDWARE modification, not software like with the phat battery. This same hardware modification can be done on a number of batteries, not just the slim.

There's directions on how what pin to lift on the battery circuit over at MaxConsole if you're interested.


Yeah, but he says that it's only software mod, he never disassembled battery...


Well, you should probably use the hardware mod until there's PROOF of a working software mod. Sometimes the people claiming software mods are running fake apps on hardware mods, just to try to look good.
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Nigthstar



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Art wrote:
It's a pity that magnetic reed switches are normally open,
or you could have a normal sealed battery that has Pandora mode activated
by placing a magnet near the battery cover.


Hi

Have bias them in the past with a magnet.. When approached with another magnet cancels so to speak and opens it up...

Been thinking on using some small jumper block and pins. Have some old dead laptop hard drives. The spaceing of those pins are 2mm. Need to measure that angle area to the left as you look at the non label side of the battery.

Else its a paper switch trick time... Would work similar to the pull the sheet to activate some button batteries device.
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Art



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have bias them in the past with a magnet.. When approached with another magnet cancels so to speak and opens it up..

I don't understand that part.
Are you giving a reason not to use the reed switch..
you encounter magnets unintentionally?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, he's saying that if you have a magnetic reed switch that is normally open, you can just permantly install a magnet next to it and it will then be normally closed. To open it again you bring a second magnet to cancel out the first once.
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Art



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks.
I don't think that's a fun idea for fitting it all inside a battery and looking like stock though.
I'll give it a go if I come across the right switch.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far as I can tell, there was nothing stopping us from soft modding the slim battery all along except fear due to initial reports of "bricked" batteries. Still no idea what software whomever reported this was using, as far as I remember only 1.50 compatible pandora battery creator existed at the time.

I have changed 2 slim batteries (both USA sku's, 1 came with a daxter PSP, the other with a piano black one) multiple times each using my knockoff of the pandora battery creator and have had no ill effects as of yet.
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