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Drakonite · Site Admin Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 989

I could be wrong, but I thought you couldn't go through enough of the setup to get the RTE installed if you didn't have a HDD.
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ooPo · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:36 am Post subject:

Start up in rescue mode and you'll get a limited bash prompt. It has network support so its possible, but a pain in the arse because you have to figure out how to install rpms with utils you need access the memory cards, and to grab whatever files you need to put on them from the network. All this on a limited memory-based root.

When I have time, I'll figure it out and maybe post a guide to getting this to work on the pstwo.

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

The RTE is never installed. What you would try to do on the PSX is to boot the PS2L disc with a memory card that already has what you need on it. But IIRC, I read that no Sony discs for PS2 work for PSX, so if the PS2L boot disc doesn't work, it's moot anyway. I'm 99% sure that the kernel used in the PSX is different enough that reload1 wouldn't work as is either.
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Guest · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:24 am Post subject:

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

Well ooPo just said it's possible to install PS2/Linux to the memory card if you have the new PS2 (why do people keep calling it PSTwo??). I don't think the same method would work on a PSX, because they won't boot discs that SCE created for the original PS2. Still waiting for someone with a PSX to try it out :P.
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Guest · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject:

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

Those bastards! What were they thinking?!?!
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pixel · Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 791

Maybe they were thinking about getting rid of the reloader thing :P

Or maybe they thought it could be dangerous to have the linux kit running on a machine which is maybe not designed for it (destroying the PSX harddrive's partitions is harmful maybe?)
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Guest · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject:

The latter is my guess. Installing Linux would disrupt the functionality of the HDD for PVR purposes most likely. It might even be possible that there is data/software on the HDD that is not meant to be destroyed/overwritten that is important for proper functioning of the PVR (I am trying to confirm this).

Unfortunately, the MC exploit also does not work, so right now it is next to impossible to dev this puppy.

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

The Super Hyper Mega AR MAX EVO GOLD Plus Edition doesn't work with it?
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ooPo · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:28 am Post subject:

Version 1.0 of the gameshark won't boot on the pstwo.

Yes, the pstwo. You know, the mini ps2? That pstwo. Kinda like how they created the psone. That would be why people call it the pstwo. And stuff. :)

What is with Sony and the way they name things? Life was easier when there was only the psx. Sheesh.

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

Heh, this time around it's US that's making things complicated. You saying it says PSTwo on the box you bought it in? Sony was consistent this time around.

Anyway, if that's what people want to call it - it makes no difference to me.
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ooPo · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:21 am Post subject:

It came in a box?

Guest · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:36 am Post subject:

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

PERPETUATE THE THREAD AT ALL COSTS!!!
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ooPo · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject:

This thread came with a box?

Guest · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject:

Its called "THREADtwo" except that its not a lower-calorie version.

coolamn · Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Posts: 3

We should enjoy the process for homebrew, but not for the new things!

ooPo · Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:50 am Post subject:

You'd think threadtwo would be smaller than the normal threads...

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

ooPo, if you try loading the HDD drivers onto the mini PS2, what happens? I'm curious if the IDE controller has been completely removed or if it's just "unattached".
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ooPo · Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:43 am Post subject:

I haven't been able to get ps2link running on it yet, but any hdd software I've run (ffxi hdd util, ps2linux boot) has acted like the drive isn't there but the controller is attached. I would imagine they used the same hardware as the old network adaptor...

Lemme open it up and take a look tonight...

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

Loading the ps2dev HDD drivers should give you a better idea what's going on (because of the verbose output). Also, on a lower level, if the IDE controller is "attached" then there's a flag set in one of the SPEED revision registers. ps2atad.irx makes decisions off of that also. I can't remember which bit it is ATM, but it should be early in ps2atad.irx.

How did they act like the controller was attached?
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mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

Yeah, that would be line 113 of ps2atad.c, with the following code:

Guest · Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject:

Food for thought,

On the network adaptor, there are two chips - I am guessing one
is the SMAP chip, and the other is the speed chip. Serial and IDE
attach directly to the speed chip. SMAP also attaches there. Oh,
and the bus connector to the PS2.

Looking at pictures of the PStwo mainboard, the SMAP chip appears
to exist, but the speed chip is no where to be seen. I am assuming
it would still appear as having green trim packaging, and the only
chip fitting that description on the PStwo is the IOP.

So that leaves only two possibilities:

The speed chip was merged into another chip - likely the SSBUS
controller.

The minimum functionality needed to masquerade as a SPEED was
merged into the SMAP chip, including the serial lines.

Ok, a third possibility - speed exists as a different type of packaging,
but seeing as I do not yet have a PStwo I can't confirm.

Is this the longest thread in ps2dev history ?

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

I don't really care about that, I just would like to know if the IDE controller exists in the mini PS2 :).
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mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

Another device to check for, since there's no way to confirm it exists on the PSX, is the DEV9 flash device. If you were to load extflash.irx on the mini PS2 it would tell you if the device existed or not.
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ooPo · Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:08 am Post subject:

I don't think Sony calls it the 'mini PS2', by the way. :)

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Guest · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:39 pm Post subject:

mrbrown · Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 1536

xfrom sits on top of extflash, so that confirms it :).
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