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madc · Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Nanking,China

There seems to be a customized OS for PSP. Screenshots:

http://www.sonyscene.com/winpsp/
or
http://yaleh.blogspot.com/2005/07/index-of-winpsp.html

F9zDark · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 127

Seems like BS if you ask me. Why would there need to be a 'POST' screen before it goes into the OS? Obviously its just a joke, since the POST screen comes on because of the BIOS chipset that is installed on the computer mother-board. I find it highly unlikely that a PSP OS would need this screen.

Not to mention, there are no Primary Master, Primary Slave, etc devices on the PSP. The PSP doesn't support IDE...

Look at the memory... 320,000 (L?) The PSP has only 32 MEGS of main memory. And 4 megabytes of DRAM. Neither of which add up to 320,000(L). 32 Megs in Kilobytes would be 32,000. And 32 Megs in Bytes would be 32,000,000. The only possible means would be a 100-Byte, (Centibyte maybe?) and that has never been used in computers as far as I can tell...

Also, look at the screenshots of the actual Desktop. Would anyone really need 5 icons for ARKANOID?

It is total BS...

chaos · Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 135

what's shown here would be fairly simple to create.. a graphical launcher program is well within the possibilities of what can already be done.. obviously, it couldn't replace the psp's original os at this point, but a gui launcher program could be written. you could even put a fake bios screen when it starts, as a joke..
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Danj · Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject:

There are advantages to having a "launcher" program (though I do think it's a bit silly that they felt the need to put a fake BIOS screen on it, and they might get in trouble for using trademarked logos like the Energy Star and Award BIOS logo). Firstly it would mean that you wouldn't need to have two folders for every homebrew app, you would just have two for the launcher (so that you can start it) and then from within the launcher you can access your homebrew apps. Secondly, maybe they can add some more features to it like some sort of file manager for example. Anyway it will be interesting to see what comes of this.
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This topic is on the track to "Hall of Shame"...I am being nice enough to let a little more discussion on it first, but that won't necessarily prevent other moderators from moving it first...

Thanhda · Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 331 Location: Canada

lmfao, if you actually beleive thats true. its obvious just a picture, because if it really was "real" then it would be all over the psp comunity. haha this is so fake, but did give me a kick out of it. =D
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Danj · Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:00 am Post subject:

almazlamaz · Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 25

looks fake to me :/
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F9zDark · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 127

Danj, if it is true, why does he need 5 Arkanoid game icons on the new desktop? Not to mention, wouldn't the new OS not allow that to be so? I do not really know about Linux, but I know Windows wouldn't allow it and DOS wouldn't allow it.

It is obviously a picture that he made and copied and pasted those icons to the desktop and just about everything else you see on there. It is all fake.

Is it possible to make an OS that runs over the existing PSP OS? Probably. The Media Center and SNES 9x both have 'operating system-like' folder browsing. But has it been made yet? Doubt it.

If he has enough of the code to make it run and have a mouse cursor(probably analog stick?), a pop-up keyboard, and some menus, then certainly he'd have SOMETHING to put up to show us.

Also, his Blog contains absolutely no written information, save his Chinese signature before his name. Which doesn't tell us anything about what he has done. I would take it a person looking to really make a PSP OS would have talked about his/her progress at least a little bit...

cheriff · Regular Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Sydney.au

/me wonders if they lisenced the AWARD bios?
imho, thats the biggest giveaway.
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chaos · Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 135

guest is my favorite moderator ;p
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MSX · Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 12

First off, I'd like to introduce myself to you guys...well, actually, it's not introduction, just telling you who I am.

I'm beta testing WinPSP, I took the pics, and I uploaded them to my site also...I've taken them down @ the request of Fluff (dev).

I'd like to let you know the first public beta will be released in 1 to 2 weeks, and the delay is noted below...because as of now the app icons/launching feature isn't currently coded. The Arkanoid icons are real, and they are draggable/renameable, but they don't lead to any actual apps.

I've posted this on DCEmu's PSP boards, but I guess someone else took the liberty of posting it here, so here's my original thread from DCEmu:

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sq377 · Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 87

sweet, I was just actaully trying to make a crappy loader for programs, (end swaploit) but can't wait for this :D.

cheriff · Regular Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Sydney.au

MSX: Fair enough. :)
I think what threw everyone (myself included) is how it was introduced as "a customized OS for PSP" Since it'a a launcher/graphical browser/etc then by all means, congrats to the Devs. I just tend to think of an OS as the kernel system services, not any higher layers (gui, for instance)
I do believe this is needed, especially if it can load n launch from pc, without touching the psp can do wonders for the test/debug/fix dev cycle.
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CoreCZ · Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 8 Location: UMD Drive

Winpsp is indeed real, Looking at a name change though , And I also have it, its at a very beta stage it doesnt do much yet but very cool.

Thanhda · Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 331 Location: Canada

Thanhda · Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 331 Location: Canada

to MSX: actually i thought it was real. so dont start pointing accusations. i dont say your thing isnt posible. but please show us some proof with a video. i'm glad you came down here to explain yourself. but you got to understand, that people really believe in stuff that they cant see. theres been many fakes out there, but very few real stuff. you have to understand that. it just seem like a joke, with that bios screen going on. no one could take it seriously.
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dasurfrdude27 · Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 6

when i try to view the videos it says forbidden... can this problem be fix or can someone email them to me at dasurfrdude27 -at- gmail.com thank you!

MSX · Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 12

chaos · Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 135

so.. i was right :P

you guys are too sceptical.
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F9zDark · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 127

It is better to be skeptical at first and then be let down, than to put full faith into something and be let down.

Not to mention, the PSP's abilty to show images makes for all sorts of fake images to be shown as legit software.

As I said, I will wait until I see the program, or more definitive proof.

Also, MSX, if you don't mind me asking, what is the current space that it takes up on the memory card?

MSX · Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 12

F9zDark, I don't mind, please feel free to ask all the questions you'd like, and I'll do my best to answer them for you.

Right now it takes up a bit over 1MB on the memory stick.

F9zDark · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 127

Not bad. Maybe I don't have to get a 3rd memory stick just yet ;).

Also, is there any media support or planned media support?

MSX · Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 12

Sorry, you'll have to wait until the public beta for an answer to that.

greenlase · Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 6

news? anyone?
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ironlung · Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 13

On July 6th, MSX stated beta in 1-2 weeks. It is July 21st now and I just wanted to bump this thread and see where the project is at.
[will cross fingers for homebrew]

F9zDark · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 127

Well he is already overdue and the little credability I held to him after he responded to us is slowly dwindling away.

NanoX seems like the only WinPSP we'll see, since its already out as beta...

zigzag · Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 129

Its nothing more than a bunch of graphics with a mouse cursor. Its not an OS nor as far as i know an API for applications, so really its just a toy.