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Sharkus · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 27

I'm having a problem that looks to be caused by a multi-threaded SDL application calling into SDL functions in a re-entrant fasion (which in turn causes calls to malloc and free re-entrantly). (Not sure if "re-entrantly" is a word?)

I believe that SDL assumes that malloc/free (and prehaps other libc/os supplied functions) are thread-safe.

Looking through the newlib code it looks like __malloc_lock and __malloc_unlock are basically stubs at this point (at least in newlib/libc/sys/psp/libcglue.c). Am I looking at the right place?

-Sharkus

TyRaNiD · Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 918

Oh yes, forget to finish that up :) Will put it on my todo list.

malloc/free will not be thread safe.

Sharkus · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 27

Hi TyRaNiD,

Are you saying it will NEVER be thread safe (even after you finish your to-do list)?

If that is the case then thread support should be removed from the PSP SDL implementation (similiar to OS 9).

http://www.libsdl.org/faq.php?action=listentries&category=6#59

TyRaNiD · Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 918

I just mean the current implementation wont be thread safe as they stand, I can make them thread safe I think :)

Sharkus · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 27

Would something along these lines work?

TyRaNiD · Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 918

That looks like it would probably work, there is still a possible race condition of setting up the mutex.

Apparently how Sony do it (and MrBrown originally implemented it) is to disable interrupts at lock time and then reenable them afterwards, this prevents any threads pre-empting your allocations. MrBrown however found out that the respective functions don't get linked into kernel apps which made it useless for SDL anyway :)

However pspsdk has not implemented its own functions to do it with pspSdkDisableInterrupts and pspSdkEnableInterrupts. Those might do the trick for you.

Sharkus · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 27

oops. bug in my code below caused things to hang instantly. not very fun dugging that. A couple general questions regarding fun with newlibc:

1. Do you really have to do clean recompiles of newlib, pspsdk, SDL and the app for each change to newlib? If I didn't do this I typically the fix-imports would fail.

2. What type of debugging output is available in newlib? I tried printf, fprintf(stderr), and Kprintf. Nothing appeared on the PSPLINK console (I disable io redirect)

Fixed code is below (ready for integration):

Sharkus · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 27

What's funny is that after all of this re-entrant malloc/free was not my main problem... It was a stack overflow. (I guess it is only funny because it is 3:00 am and I have to be to work in a few hours.)

Any bright ideas on how to make the SDL thread stack size programmable at run time (or is it better just to hack the code on an application by application basis)?

jimparis · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 1179 Location: Boston

Use an environment variable if you want to override the default at runtime, although I'd also be in favor just making the default 48k or 64k or something if you think that's a generally useful change.

For that malloc locking -- you should probably create the semaphore in __psp_libc_init, to avoid that initial race condition.

Sharkus · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 27

Hopefully going to have some time to start my PSP devel effort again. Does someone want to check in a couple updates or is it better for me to get SVN access?

bitachou · Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 1

Hi everybody,

(I'm new in this forum and I don't know where is the presentaion topic if there is one).

I don't know if I had to up this topic or create another one.

I've problems when I'm using thread.
When two(or more) threads are allocating memory "at the same time" I've always have hardware exceptions.
It's not the same each time, it could be adresse storz or load/inst fetch or bus error.

But with the psplib debug and pspadress2line the error seems to be always on mallocr.c (but not each time at the same line).

So I take a look at the newlib source in pspsdk source and malloc , free and others seems to be thread safe (and reentrant) .

but with more search I found in newlib-1.16.0\newlib\libc\include\sys\lock.h that
#define __lock_acquire_recursive(lock) (0)

so __lock_acquire_recursive is not implemented so malloc is not thread safe at all

am I right ?

Did someone have already fix this problem ?

And last question :
Am I the only one who have this problem since 2006(the date o the last post on the topic) ?

Thank you

(PS: sorry for the ugly english but I's not my birth language )

J.F. · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 2906

The PSP uses cooperative multitasking, so it's quite safe, despite no locking. There's no way on the PSP that threads can allocate memory "at the same time".