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marco0009



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: MIPS Resources? Reply with quote

I'm wondering if anyone knows of any good MIPS coding resources. I know C++ pretty well, but assembly is foreign to me and I'm eager to learn more about the PSP and the work going on with it right now. If anyone knows of any decent websites or books detailing MIPS, please post.

Thanks.
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chaos



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mips assembly is not a friendly language.. even the official documentation will tell you that it wasn't designed for coding in, and you'd be better off using a compiler..

if you want to learn assembly, start with something easy. maybe get yourself an 8051 kit.. or just regular old x86..

anyway, here is a pdf.

http://www.mips.com/content/PressRoom/TechLibrary/RSeriesDocs/content_html/documents/R4000%20Microprocessor%20Users%20Manual.pdf
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it doesn't hurt to look around....

http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t=1302

and

http://forums.ps2dev.org/viewtopic.php?t=2025
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Warren



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chaos wrote:
mips assembly is not a friendly language.. even the official documentation will tell you that it wasn't designed for coding in, and you'd be better off using a compiler..


I'd like to know what you're smoking. I learned ASM on MIPS and it's a damn site easier than hand coding x86 ASM. You have to have a working knowledge of ASM for the platform you're coding for in order to be a decent developer (unless you're one of those people who feels that using a debugger is for lesser people and instead stick billions of printfs in your code).

Anyway, sorry for the rant but I had to cut down this FUD before going to bed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I do have to agree with Warren. Before MIPS, the last time I did assembly was 6502 about 20 years ago. MIPS was a breeze to pickup. It really is easy. I took at peek at x86 and...ran...

Oh yes, did a touch of VAX assembly in college, but nevermind that... it wasn't terribly useful.

One neat trick for beginners is to write very small c/c++ programs and use gcc -S to see the ASM output, but I daresay its hardly necessary.
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mrbrown



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warren wrote:
chaos wrote:
mips assembly is not a friendly language.. even the official documentation will tell you that it wasn't designed for coding in, and you'd be better off using a compiler..


I'd like to know what you're smoking. I learned ASM on MIPS and it's a damn site easier than hand coding x86 ASM. You have to have a working knowledge of ASM for the platform you're coding for in order to be a decent developer (unless you're one of those people who feels that using a debugger is for lesser people and instead stick billions of printfs in your code).


Indeed, they taught us MIPS asm in college, and this was waaay back in 2000.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.computing.dcu.ie/~ray/CA225b.html

This looks good, I'm reading through it now.

-ReK
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